New Testament Church Proliferation Digest


Spreading the Gospel via House Churches


August 5, 2001 Vol 01 : 046
 
Re: [New Testament Church Proliferation] topics of interest to be pursued (fwd)

Re: [New Testament Church Proliferation] topics of interest to be pursued (fwd)

Re: [New Testament Church Proliferation] The Goal of Evangelism in Church Planting

Re: [New Testament Church Proliferation] The Goal of Evangelism in Church Planting

Re: [Re: [New Testament Church Proliferation] topics of interest to be pursued (fwd)]

 

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:14:54 +0700 From: "Link"

Subject: Re: [[New Testament Church Proliferation] topics of interest to be pursued (fwd)]

Felicity Dale,

I just wanted to comment that I really appreciated your message. It was encouraging to see how the Lord can work to start a house church like that.

What do you do in the 'raw' meetings you have in that neighborhood? What do you do in church?

Does anyone else have any more encouraging accounts they'd like to share of how a church got started?

Link


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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:21:45 -0400 From: "Michael Gastin" Subject: Re: [[New Testament Church Proliferation] topics of interest to be pursued (fwd)]

Felicity,

I too was encouraged by your post. How 'on-topic' and how refreshing! I would, like Link, love to hear more about what you are doing. I have a desire to see many reached in my area and would love to learn more about what the Lord is doing through you and your husband.

Mike - ------ Mike Gastin Moderator house churchmod*rochester.rr.nospam.com http://homechurch.org/newsgroup ICQ# 91065491

- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Link" To: Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [[New Testament Church Proliferation] topics of interest to be pursued (fwd)]

Felicity Dale,

I just wanted to comment that I really appreciated your message. It was encouraging to see how the Lord can work to start a house church like that.

What do you do in the 'raw' meetings you have in that neighborhood? What do you do in church?

Does anyone else have any more encouraging accounts they'd like to share of how a church got started?

Link


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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 16:37:12 -0400 From: "Samuel M. Buick"

Subject: Re: [New Testament Church Proliferation] The Goal of Evangelism in Church Planting

"One of the most critical issues that the church faces today and has been facing for some time, and that is, a serious crisis... in the areas of eschatology... a wholesale attack on the trustworthiness of the Bible and on the truth of Scripture concerning the Person and work of Jesus Himself... "I have never been satisfied that the evangelical community has dealt with the problems of the timeframe references that are set forth in the New Testament about the near-term expectations - things that were to happen within the first century." R.C. Sproul - from 'Last Days Madness' speech a Ligonier Ministries 1999 National Conference in Orlando.

From: "Deborah" Reply-To: New Testament Church Proliferation Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:18:48 +0200 To: Subject: [New Testament Church Proliferation] The Goal of Evangelism in Church Planting

David Anderson wrote:

I'm familiar with most of these

writers and am aware that they view the great tribulation as being the 70

AD massacre, already fulfilled. I believe it, myself. Several in that

list are very, very keen on the idea, devoting entire volumes to it.

RC Sproul ...

R.C. Sproul is a Premillenialist so I find it hard to believe he would hold such views on the tribulation, much less Sam Buick's take on the Great Commission. But I'm willing to be proven wrong. I too am interested with David to see this documented.

Michael

Jerusalem


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Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 02:56:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay English

Subject: Re: [New Testament Church Proliferation] The Goal of Evangelism in Church Planting

Hi, I'm new to the list. I've been lurking for about a week and really enjoying the responses being posted about personal church planting experiences. I'm a layman having served as an elder, worship leader, small group leader, sunday school teacher, etc. and am interested in planting a house church and developing a support group for lay leadership. I love the practical techniques that people have been sharing. I praise GOD, for what he's doing in Asia and other parts of the world! But are there any practical techniques that people could share for a layman trying to plant a house church network in postmodern America? On a totally unrelated subject, I would refer Michael to R.C. Sproul's book "The Last Days According to Jesus". He's actually a partial preterist in his eschatology. I don't want to upset anyone's personal theology, but if you would care to read any preterist (already fulfilled) articles, you'll find some very scholarly works at this site. ~JP http://www.preteristarchive.com/Preterism/index.html Deborah wrote: David Anderson wrote: I'm familiar with most of these

writers and am aware that they view the great tribulation as being the 70

AD massacre, already fulfilled. I believe it, myself. Several in that

list are very, very keen on the idea, devoting entire volumes to it.

RC Sproul ...

R.C. Sproul is a Premillenialist so I find it hard to believe he would hold such views on the tribulation, much less Sam Buick's take on the Great Commission. But I'm willing to be proven wrong. I too am interested with David to see this documented.

Michael

Jerusalem

 

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Date: 5 Aug 2001 07:50:36 MDT From: Felicity Dale

Subject: Re: [Re: [[New Testament Church Proliferation] topics of interest to be pursued (fwd)]]

Mike and Link

Thank you for your encouraging remarks.

Last Sunday's meeting in the projects was more "raw" than usual, but in no sense untypical. As normal we arrived laden down with food, and then attempted to round up the different families from the complex, mostly kids this time but that was all in the Lord's plan for reasons which will become obvious. We started with a large breakfast. (We have been involved with church in homes for over 30 years now, initially in England but for the past several years here in the States, and our observation is that those groups that include a meal invariably do much better than those that do not.)

During the meal, 2 of Lily's grand kids got into a major fight, which was broken up by Ray, who is Lily's son. He has been a Christian for around a month now and Lily a few months longer. Lily then became involved and a disagreement broke out between Ray and Lily on how you handle kids! Great way to start a meeting! It was obvious we would not be able to do things in the normal way and so the kids were taken out for some activities. As the adults settled down, Ray's question to us was "How do you handle it when you really hate someone?" This led to a very practical discussion on 1) how Jesus can deal with hatred and anger 2) how you discipline kids (Ray's point being that if a kid picks a fight with the wrong person in the projects he ends up getting shot!) 3) how do Christians handle disagreement.

Different ones shared on how the Lord had helped them deal with similar situations, Scriptures on these topics were looked at, and everyone prayed with those who were having problems.

The kids were then brought back in and there followed the most precious time of praise and worship. I remember at one point watching a 9 or 10 year old, with his eyes closed, just singing his heart out, and thinking that this beats worship in most of the churches I know, - loud and out of tune maybe, but the real thing. We had difficulty getting everyone to stop!

A more typical time would include some Bible Study. In most of our churches the usual pattern is to take a book and attempt to go through a chapter a week. We take turns reading a few verses, and if anyone has a question or comment they interrupt. The reason for this is that even a very young Christian can lead a Bible Study in this manner, and if churches are to multiply quickly, we cannot spend too long training a leader.

If it is of interest, I can share about how we got started and some of the other churches in our fellowship. They may illustrate different patterns of how to start a church.

You ask what else we are involved in. We support ourselves by running a business that helps people without medical insurance. We are a part of a fellowship of churches that meet in homes, coming together once a month for a celebration. We actively try to network with other house church networks here in central Texas, as well as others across the nation. One of our joint projects is a new magazine called House2House (www.house2house.tv). We encourage people in our churches to involve in whatever the Lord leads them to, for example, a couple in one of our churches runs the Magdalene Project, an outreach to 'women of the night,' which is catching on in other areas too. The list could go on.

Hope this helps,

Felicity Dale

"Michael Gastin" wrote: Felicity,

I too was encouraged by your post. How 'on-topic' and how refreshing! I would, like Link, love to hear more about what you are doing. I have a desire to see many reached in my area and would love to learn more about what the Lord is doing through you and your husband.

Mike - ------ Mike Gastin Moderator house churchmod*rochester.rr.nospam.com http://homechurch.org/newsgroup ICQ# 91065491

- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Link" To: Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [[New Testament Church Proliferation] topics of interest to be pursued (fwd)]

Felicity Dale,

I just wanted to comment that I really appreciated your message. It was encouraging to see how the Lord can work to start a house church like that.

What do you do in the 'raw' meetings you have in that neighborhood? What do you do in church?

Does anyone else have any more encouraging accounts they'd like to share of how a church got started?

Link

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