New Testament Church Proliferation Digest


Spreading the Gospel via House Churches


Sept 5, 2001 Vol 01 : 063

NT Church Proliferation Digest Wednesday, September 5 2001 Vol 01 : 063


re: RE: [ntcp] Bible education for the church
[ntcp] The small things...
Re: [ntcp] The small things...
[ntcp] Bible education for the church [from Tony]
[ntcp] Rapid multiplication model
Re: [ntcp] Bible education for the church
RE: Re: [ntcp] The small things...
[ntcp] Fw: Invitation!
[ntcp] Re: The small things...


Date: 04 Sep 2001 19:21:57 +0100
From: castillofuerte
Subject: re: RE: [ntcp] Bible education for the church

Dear Vanessa,

Hello and blessings in the wonderfull name of Jesus. One thing at a time: Am I a home churcher too? Well, yes and no. I use a model which I describe as an "Organic Cell-Church", which is very different from traditional Cell-Church models. Each cell is a working, independant homechurch, but relates stongly with others locally for area, and city wide meetings, with a city wide eldership including interested IC's. I have made a few posts about it recently, but if you would like more information in English or Spainish just let me know.

Secondly the material, The ICM material isn't available for use outside Spain, as it needs to be controled from here. The best SEAN material that I can recommend is that recommended by George Patterson yesterday, I'm pretty certain that it can be obtained in Spanish, contact www.TrainAndMultiply.com for more details. For SEAN itself I only have their international postal address, which is SEAN International Ministries Inc.,1750 Centry Circle, Suite 23, Atlanta, Georgia, 30345. USA. I hope that that helps. If I can be of any more help please let me know, but i may not answer until the 13th or so as I am having my first holiday in about nine years.

Blessings,
Keith


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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:53:14 -0700
From: Dan Snyder
Subject: [ntcp] The small things...


I'm not picking on Keith here. But this illustrates a good point for all of
us who desire to serve the Lord.

Actually, it's the small things that are a window into our character. And
it's our character that gives weight to (or discredits) what we say.

It's significant that when the Lord resurrected He took the time to fold the
handkerchief that had been covering His head. Apparently that was a small
thing... but it confirmed for the brothers that He hadn't simply been
carried away.

They knew how He did things. They knew He wasn't sloppy.

That small act was a major testimony.

I believe that the Lord who now lives in us still care about the "small
things".

May we allow Him to train us... even in the small things.

Dan


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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:47:27 -0400
From: "Michael Gastin"
Subject: Re: [ntcp] The small things...

Dan, Keith, Michael & List,

Not picking on you either, Dan (or defending Keith for that matter). It was
the same Lord who folded the handkerchief that also nailed the Pharisees for
knowing the technicalities of the Law but completely misunderstanding the
essence of the Law.

I, like most of you, have cringed many times when a Christian handles the
scripture like it is a lump of Play-dough. They just mash it into whatever
convenient shape they need it for with no regard to context, application and
so on. But, like Keith, I have watched the very spirit of fellowship and
love that we are all charged to maintain and exude wither-up and blow away
as men wrangle over the minute of scripture.

Just as the legalists of Jesus' day missed it, so do we some times - it is
all about Love. Love first and all the other stuff will fall into line. Love
first and then scripture will make sense. Love first and it all works. Love.
Let's strive for a perfection of Love in our lives.

Mike
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 21:34:37 -0400
From: forwarded
Subject: [ntcp] Bible education for the church [from Tony]

[note from mail forwarder: this message was received from a non-s*b addy,
thus delayed. Sorry.]

We welcome anyone in a missionary situation downloading and using any
materials that they find on the www.house2house.tv web site.

We areworking on making sure that a growing body of material,
representing many different viewpoints, but all committed to the
authority of scripture and the importance of churches in homes, is
available via the site. We welcome any in mission situations printing out
the magazine or we can send copies to other countries if the paper copies
are more useful to you.

In Christ,
Tony Dale


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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:28:06 -0700
From: jferris
Subject: [ntcp] Rapid multiplication model

Dear Link

I'm probably a little late in receiving and sending this along, but it
appears to target the interests of many on this list..

Yours in Christ,

Jay

From: Wolfgang Simson
Subject: Rapid multiplication model
Sender: Wolfgang Simson
To: Blind.Copy.Receivers

Dear friends,

I come to you with an important request for review and imput on the
attachment (4 pages) called "LUKE 10" at this time.

The planting of networks of housechurches is becoming one of the most
rapidly growing churchplanting initiatives in the world, and has the
potential of becoming a major player in the future of missions, missions
planning and strategy. Let me simply omit any further comment on the
apostolic and prophetic significance of it in these days at this time. I am
seeing thousands of these churches being planted,and those who know me are
aware of my vision to see 100 million churches to be planted in this
generation. I keep getting a constant flow of mails after people read my
book "Houses that change the world" on what a lifechanging issue this is
becoming for many.

The question is, how do we train Christians to become planters of
healthy networks of housechurches. We need a few dozen millions.

How can disciples be trained in a multipliable and healthy way,
that does not mix their mission with without ambitious motives, fleshly
desires, denominational interests, building of small empires or, possibly
worst, ghettoized navel-gazing groups of elitists that are strategically
insignificant for the Kingdom.

And: how can a healthy mission DNA, a "missional ecclesiology", an
apostolic breath, be instilled in as many believers as possible to become
nameless harvest workers of those "72 others" mentioned in Luke 10?
I see 3 strands of churches together contributing towards the Great
Comission in regional or national churchplanting movements in the future:

1. Traditional Churches(and parachurches)
2. Cell churches
3. Non-Traditional Churches, amonst them housebased churches

Every leadership development carries inherrently the concept it comes from,
and will reproduce after its inbuilt DNA, its concept of church.
Most material on developing leadership today is based on the No.1 model,
while I am happy to observe that Cell Churches are developing own
leadership concepts and training models.

However, the clarion call today is to be proactive and develop sound and
multipliable training modules that reflect the values and vision of group
No.3, non-trad. churches, which will form the majority of churches and
churchplants - given the response and mentality of the new generation - in
the future.

I HAVE 3 important questions for you:

1. Could you send me your 3 line comment (or more) on the attached
document, and

2. Could you YOURSELF become involved in your country (or beyond, of
course) to develop a LUKE 10 type training module?

3. Could you suggest people in your nation that would be gifted and able to
partner with the development of LUKE 10? I am very simly looking for the
"top 5" in each of the 5 ministries mentioned in Eph. 4:11, and look for
Apostles, prophets, teachers, pastors and evangelists, since they will be
the main resources for this training. However, not everyone will qualify.
They need to be servants; not completely bound into one ministries agenda; clearly
gifted in that area; not selffish in building his or her empire, ready for
teamwork, valuing other peoples ministry, and must have a vision for
churchplanting.

If you can even come up with a very few names (and emails, or adresses,
phone numbers...) I will be very pleased.

I will be very anxious to hear from you.

Blessings,
Wolfgang Simson

An intense training module to prepare workers for the coming harvest and
persecution

VISION and GOAL: to provide training in order to plant at least 100 million
new churches in this generation around the globe
As an answer to many prayers to Ïfling out workers into the harvest


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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:52:45 -0700
From: jferris
Subject: Re: [ntcp] Bible education for the church

Dear Keith,

In light of your note to Vanessa, I thought you might be interested in
the following discussed today, 9/4/01 by leaders in Charlotte: Shepherds
in Charlotte is a leadership group that has been meeting for about 30 years.

castillofuerte wrote:

>I use a model which I describe as an "Organic Cell-Church", which is very different from traditional Cell-Church models. Each cell is a working, independent homechurch, but relates strongly with others locally for area, and city wide meetings, with a city wide eldership including interested IC's.
>
That might well describe something of what is happening with Shepherds
as well:

"What Is Charlotte Area Shepherds?

Shepherds is a gate -- The Shepherds Gate. It has become an authentic
gate into the spiritual city of God in Charlotte. Gates have no agenda.
Agendas only limit access. Because there are no agendas, Shepherds is a
wide gate. There is a lot of traffic there, and the traffic is very
diverse in its perception, understanding, maturity, ministry, doctrine,
experience, and, oh yes, agenda.

This diversity results in a certain tension, which is not always
understood or appreciated, but appears to be very healthy. There was
agreement that it would be helpful to pass this perspective along to
those who attend Shepherds, so that they can embrace the tension rather
than being offended, confused or alienated by it.

At the same time those who come to Shepherds need to appreciate that, as
a gate, there is no point in trying to impose an agenda on Shepherds.
That way disappointment or feelings of rejection can be minimized. A
gate is a place of access, a meeting place, a place for encouragement,
praise, direction, guidance, a place for making new friends, and
entering into lasting relationships. It is a place for sharing thoughts,
experiences, prayers, and even a place for conflict resolution when
things go wrong or where there is misunderstanding.

A gate is a place where elders may be found, if the city is healthy, but
elders are not the only ones in a gate. The wisdom of Shepherds is that
it has left whatever elders are there in a very low profile position.
This has also been a beneficial part of the tension. The eldership of
Shepherds has tried to avoid legislating or being heavy handed, and this
has made this a gate where there is a great deal of freedom. This
freedom is not always appreciated by those with big agendas, but the
freedom is appreciated enough by others to compensate for the tension
that results.

Jesus said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
John 10:7 He had already said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other
way, the same is a thief and a robber. John 10:1

The same can be said about the gates of a city. To discover a gate is a
fairly major archeological find. And spiritually this is very
important, because, once gates are recognized, there is no longer any
excuse for entering the city by any other means. It helps to clarify who
the true shepherds are, and conversely, who are behaving as robbers and
thieves.

One thing that was noted, but, is that it is not so easy to moderate
interaction in an environment where there is this kind of tension, and
the moderator needs to have both strength and sensitivity in this
connection.

Some of the issues at Shepherds that contribute to this tension are: the
place of women, prayer, abortion, politics, deliverance, the Lord's
Supper, the place of agendas, announcements, worship, praise,
leadership, inclusiveness, exclusiveness, ministry, charismatic
manifestations, and even cell phones. Where these things are settled
issues, or not even addressed yet, the gates tend to be narrower. Paul
says to the Philippians, "Those of us who are mature should take such a
view of things, and if on some things you think differently, that too
God will make clear, only let's live up to what we have already attained."

In the present context what this says to us is that there is room for
differences even among the mature or relatively mature; that God will
give clarity in those areas over time; and while we are waiting for
clarity, we need to press on without breaking fellowship with each
other. It is in the midst of our fellowship that God gives clarity, and
His love shed abroad in our hearts keeps us in fellowship.

So let's embrace the tension to the end that we can grow up together
into Him who is the Head."

For many years now, a personal priority has been to find the authentic
eldership wherever I went. At Shepherds, I have found that an authentic
gate is also very important even when the true elders in that gate are
not yet very clear.

Yours in Christ,

Jay


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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 0:07 +0100
From: castillofuerte@airtel.net
Subject: RE: Re: [ntcp] The small things...

Why is it that others say what I want to
say so much more elequently than I
can? Bless you Michael, and Dan and
Michael and all the list. Loves the thing.

Blessings,
Keith


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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:01:59 -0500
From: "Dan Hubbell"
Subject: [ntcp] Fw: Invitation!

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50 Years
The family and
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cordially invite you
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CELEBRATION of his 50 Years
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ministry
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Sunday, September 23, 2001
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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:24:32 -0700
From: Dan Snyder
Subject: [ntcp] Re: The small things...

>
Amen Keith and Brothers!

Just wanted to say that I appreciate the spirit of fellowship here. To me
that's a real hallmark of the kind of mutual shepherding that causes us all
to grow.

Not a small thing!

Dan


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